My REI dividend (all $11 of it — see what a careful consumer I was last year?) was burning a hole in my pocket, and the added incentive of the annual 20 percent off sale was enough to get me off the couch in search of a new pair of hiking treads … turns out the the shoes I mentioned last month are no good for long distance on hard ground, though they’d be fine for standing in line 12 hours for Stones tickets.
I headed over to the new Mountain View REI with the idea of getting some over-the-ankle boots because all the discussion we had the other day convinced me boots are worth a look even if they are a bit heavier.
I had my sights set on the Montrail Torre — a really rugged boot with a rubber lining around the bottom — but I couldn’t find a size I liked; either they were too tight around the toes or too floppy. While I was trying on about a half-dozen of these things I overheard the shoe salesman telling some folks they really should avoid Gore-Tex and other so-called waterproofers if they planned to hike in temperatures over 80 degrees, which is about half the year in the Bay Area. Hearing that got me thinking the big tough Torres were overkill for 99 percent of the hikes I go on.
I went back to the salesman and explained as much; he disappeared into the back and showed up several minutes later with a shoe I hadn’t asked for: the Keen Targhee Mid II. These shoes look a bit odd because the toes are almost square, but the fit is superb: no rubbing on the sides, nice arch support, just-right cushion. Also: EVent, which is supposed to be more breathable than Gore-Tex. Note: my normal size is 9 EEE; these were a 10.5 regular. I did the standard two laps around the store to check the fit and the clambering over the fake rocks. It took me at least an hour, and I was fortunate that the salesman seemed to understand the shape of my feet.
Take-away lessons: hold out for the right fit, no matter how long it takes; keep an ear out for useful information; and go on a weekday when the crowds are small and the most veteran sales people are working — they’re the ones who have the “don’t wear these in the tropics” tips you might not get from the college kids working nights and weekends.
One of the nice things about REI — which almost makes up for the high brand-name prices — is that they take back just about anything if you don’t like it. Much less chance of buyer’s remorse. I’m no longer moved by the dividend deal; these days I pride myself on keeping it small, because there are almost always better prices somewhere else and besides, we should throw at least some of our money at home-grown retailers.
I just returned the boots I wore on our Nov Mt Diablo hike since they pounded my left big toe tendon into oblivion. Got me a nice pair of Vasque Breeze high tops. Used my REI dividend and the March 20% discount. These are sweet boots. GoreTex, Vibram shank, no rivets at lace turns and REALLY lightweight.
RickD
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Vasque definitely makes nice boots. The boots in my logo are Vasque Clarions. I don’t believe they come in wide widths, though.
I’m confused…the salesperson told you to “avoid Gore-Tex and other so-called waterproofers….” – and then he sold you a pair of waterproof (same ePTFE membrane) Keen shoes?
Kai: he didn’t tell me that, he told it to some people who were planning on hiking somewhere in Central America where it’ll be tropical hot all the time. I just overheard him giving that advice while I was trying on those heavy-duty, way, way waterproof Montrail backpacking boots … which clued me in that I didn’t really need that much waterproofness, or that hard-core of a boot.
The Keen shoes do have the so-called waterproofing, which I could’ve gotten by without, but I was so happy about them fitting well that all other considerations sorta flew out the window. The salesman was very helpful and straightforward.
hey tom – good review. I actually picked up a pair of the Torre GTXs last year and love them. But they are big, heavy boots. Great for winter hiking and snowshoeing. I spend the warmest months of the year canoeing more than hiking, so I appreciate the warmth and waterproofness, but I’ve been meaning to get some more lightweight hiking shoes or boots for summer hiking. The Montrails are definitely overkill for that. As for fit, they’re incredibly comfortable for me, tight in the heel so they don’t move around, but boxy in the toes so my foot lays nice and flat to give me maximum balance. You’re absolutely right though that a boot can be just great, but if it doesn’t fit, keep looking.
I’ve had the same boots for almost 10 years, but I rarely wear them. Mostly, I just buy the clearance bargain running shoes from one of the super/killer deals mail order places, and modify them with after-market footbeds, moleskin, tape, and/or Exacto knives to make them fit comfortably.
Put in 12 miles at Henry Coe today in the new shoes … got a small blister under my big toe on one side where I always get them when I walk farther than my feet want to go, but no serious fit-related issues.
I do believe that as billed EVent breathes better than Gore-Tex. I walked 6.5 hours and while my socks were a bit moist, they weren’t as soaked as they used to get in my old Vasque Clarions, which were Gore-Tex.
I totally agree about fit! I am wearing my second pair of Adidas Supernova Trail shoes (trail version of popular running shoe) and love the fit and comfort. With thin synthetic socks I have never had a blister. Longest hike in them (wore them out but they already had 200+ miles) was 17 mile round trip up Mt Whitney Mountaineers route to peak and then down main trail last Sept. One complaint: rubber not the best for granite.
My priorities:
1 Fit
2 Light weight
3 Breathability (live in desert, not much rain so waterproof not needed)