{"id":406,"date":"2003-12-10T08:45:04","date_gmt":"2003-12-10T08:45:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/tommangan.net\/printsthechaff\/?p=406"},"modified":"2003-12-10T08:45:04","modified_gmt":"2003-12-10T08:45:04","slug":"on-unpaid-interns","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tommangan.net\/printsthechaff\/2003\/12\/on-unpaid-interns\/","title":{"rendered":"On unpaid interns"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>An interesting thread at Testy Copy Editors<a href=\"http:\/\/www.testycopyeditors.org\/cgi-bin\/forum\/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&#038;f=2&#038;t=000170\"> debates the pluses and minuses. <\/a> Speaking for the defense, Pam says: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I arrange unpaid internships for my copy desk. I will agree that many shops misuse interns. But that doesn&#8217;t mean the concept itself is no good.<br \/>\n<BR><BR><br \/>\nThe interns I&#8217;ve worked with have all been in school, paying tuition and getting college credit for their work here. I arrange their schedules around other classes, and ensure that they fulfill their individual j-school&#8217;s requirements. (Which vary, since we&#8217;re dealing with more than one university.)<br \/>\n<BR><BR><br \/>\nWorking with interns is work. These people, by definition, do not have the skills to be a regular part of the desk. Every task I give them involves teaching, sometimes a LOT of teaching. And, because an internship should be about exposure, I make sure my interns get to participate in, or at least observe, a range of newsroom projects, from writing briefs to attending the page 1 budget meeting. Each of these activities involves pre- and postsession teaching, explaining and expanding.<br \/>\n<BR><BR><br \/>\nThe only one being exploited for cheap labor is me. But each year I go to HR for more, because I think it&#8217;s important for those of us who are established to help those who are coming up. And once in awhile, there will be a real talent in the bunch. Seeing that oh-so-young spark is rejuvenating. Not testy. But rewarding<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Wayne responds: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Pam, it sounds as if you&#8217;re providing excellent training for your interns. Supervisors (and nonsupervisors) who train staff members, no matter the status, age or experience level of the worker, are to be commended.<br \/>\n<BR><BR><br \/>\nWe need college-age students to get a taste of copy editing &#8212; eager prospective reporters as much as prospective desk workers. All should become better pros sooner because of this.<br \/>\n<BR><BR><br \/>\nI&#8217;ve worked with talented 20-year-olds who benefitted greatly from paid or unpaid internships. They asked frequent questions of the full-timers around them and learned from seeing their mistakes corrected by full-timers. Some, by the end of their internships, were as valuable or even more valuable than the weakest old-timers.<br \/>\n<BR><BR><br \/>\nBut when these best of the best completed their internships, the full-timers left behind were again shorthanded, awaiting the next intern to train on their time while cleaning up their work.<br \/>\n<BR><BR><br \/>\nThe dozens of unpaid interns I&#8217;ve seen in previous jobs tended to have either affluent families or large scholarships. Their financial support enabled them to work for free &#8212; an impossibility for many students. But that&#8217;s the way the world works, I guess.<br \/>\n<BR><BR><br \/>\nYes, unpaid internships could work if structured as well as your paper&#8217;s, Pam. The time they require of the intern must be sufficient for training. Desks must be fully staffed so that time exists for the continual training by co-workers and the frequent fixing of problems before deadline.<br \/>\n<BR><BR><br \/>\nWe&#8217;ll have to set aside the issues of equal opportunity and assume current and prospective full-timers aren&#8217;t suffering because of internships, though.<br \/>\n<BR><BR><br \/>\nI wonder how many papers have the staffing to make unpaid internships beneficial. I&#8217;ve seen multiple papers take advantage of students and full-timers in this way, even in times of fuller staffing than exist today. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An interesting thread at Testy Copy Editors debates the pluses and minuses. Speaking for the defense, Pam says: I arrange unpaid internships for my copy desk. I will agree that many shops misuse interns. But that doesn&#8217;t mean the concept&hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"more-link-p\"><a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/tommangan.net\/printsthechaff\/2003\/12\/on-unpaid-interns\/\">Read more &rarr;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[6],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/tommangan.net\/printsthechaff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/406"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/tommangan.net\/printsthechaff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/tommangan.net\/printsthechaff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tommangan.net\/printsthechaff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tommangan.net\/printsthechaff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=406"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/tommangan.net\/printsthechaff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/406\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/tommangan.net\/printsthechaff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=406"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tommangan.net\/printsthechaff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=406"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tommangan.net\/printsthechaff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=406"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}