{"id":183,"date":"2003-10-18T01:05:28","date_gmt":"2003-10-18T01:05:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/tommangan.net\/printsthechaff\/?p=183"},"modified":"2003-10-18T01:05:28","modified_gmt":"2003-10-18T01:05:28","slug":"meet-jack-the-pagination-guy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tommangan.net\/printsthechaff\/2003\/10\/meet-jack-the-pagination-guy\/","title":{"rendered":"Meet Jack, the pagination guy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jack Rosenzweig works for a company called Baseview, which builds pagination systems<br \/>\nfor small newspapers. Jack started out as a copy editor in New Jersey, and did<br \/>\nthat for a couple years before getting into pagination 11 years ago. At first he he<br \/>\ntrained people to use his system, but lately he&#8217;s more of a honcho at Baseview.<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve met a few pagination vendor reps who were former desk people, so I figured<br \/>\nJack could help us understand a bit about his job. The idea being that a little<br \/>\neducation will make you less likely to belt your vendor rep across the nose when<br \/>\nyour next major system install causes horrifying things to happen moments before<br \/>\nthe press run begins. Jack lives with his wife and two kids near Ann Arbor Michigan.<\/p>\n<p><h3>Why do pagination systems drive us crazy?<\/h3>\n<blockquote>\n<p> Because that&#8217;s our goal, and we&#8217;re damn good at it.<\/p>\n<p> I haven&#8217;t used them all, but from my experience the problem boils down mostly<br \/>\nto a couple things: poorly designed systems and a monumental resistance to<br \/>\nchange from the newspaper staff.<\/p>\n<p> Some pagination systems are so rigid they become difficult to assimilate<br \/>\ninto a particular workflow, or so powerful and flexible they become a hindrance<br \/>\nwhen trying to them &#8212; the system in essence gets in the user&#8217;s way.<\/p>\n<p> My philosophy, coming from the copy desk, has been to try to create the<br \/>\ntools that were a natural aid to the editor or reporter. Not to blow our own<br \/>\nhorn, but the reporters can learn our system in an hour or less most of the<br \/>\ntime. We try to make it as easy as possible. We frequently reject features<br \/>\nfrom the engineers &#8212; while they might be cool, they require too much innate<br \/>\nknowledge of the system.<\/p>\n<p> And most journalists don&#8217;t want to be computer jockeys. I think that&#8217;s where<br \/>\na lot of vendors get sidetracked: they forget that they aren&#8217;t selling software,<br \/>\nso much as a solution or toolset to a professional. The journalist should<br \/>\nnot have to make a giant leap to this new tool.<\/p>\n<p> That being said, some blame lies at the foot of the newspaper and its employees.<br \/>\nThe newspaper makes what I consider a huge flaw when it hands pagination over<br \/>\nto the copy editors, most of whom these days have no clue about typography,<br \/>\nlayout, etc. When I first used a pagination tool on an internship 15 years<br \/>\nago it was like a godsend, because I was accustomed to doing my own paste-up<br \/>\n&#8230; Most journalists don&#8217;t have that background, so the page in Quark or CCI<br \/>\nisn&#8217;t an electronic paste-up board to them, it&#8217;s more like black magic. Some<br \/>\nof the more successful installations I have worked with converted the paste-up<br \/>\nstaff into paginators.<\/p>\n<p> Also, journalists, like everyone else, really abhor change. So they don&#8217;t<br \/>\ntend to look at a new computer system as something interesting or fun. It&#8217;s<br \/>\namazing how much better an installation goes when the staff is into it, as<br \/>\nopposed to one where the publisher or corporate mandated the system. <\/p>\n<p> And last of all &#8230; Software has bugs, always will. It&#8217;s a rule. Pagination<br \/>\nsystems, operating systems, air traffic control, the space shuttle, etc. You<br \/>\nname it and it will have bugs.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><h3>Speaking of bugs: Why can&#8217;t you get the bugs out before the product is installed?<br \/>\n<\/h3>\n<blockquote>\n<p> Why can&#8217;t you get all the typos and factual errors out of the paper before<br \/>\nit hits the press? \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p> Same reason, human error, for the most part. Software is much more complex<br \/>\nthat the average person realizes, there are probably millions of lines of<br \/>\ncode involved. And there are so many permutations of how any one action or<br \/>\ninteraction can be executed that its impossible to test every one.<\/p>\n<p> These days there are also all of the external issues to contend with as<br \/>\nwell &#8212; multiple operating systems (Win2k, WinXP, WinNT, Win98, Mac OS X,<br \/>\nMac OS 9, Linux, etc.), pagination platforms (Quark, InDesign), and text editors<br \/>\n(Word, InCopy, CopyDesk), databases (Oracle, MS SQL, mySQL, etc.) you get<br \/>\nthe picture. So not only do we have our own code to check for bugs, but frequently<br \/>\nwe have to work around bugs in any of the above code that we depend on but<br \/>\nhave no control over.<\/p>\n<p> Believe me, we wish we could get all the bugs out. The programmers I work<br \/>\nwith take a lot of pride in what they do, and are very upset when they learn<br \/>\nof issues that are causing discomfort with customers. But there just aren&#8217;t<br \/>\nenough hours in the day.<\/p>\n<p> Time to market is a huge issue as well&#8211; one that is driven by the customers.<br \/>\nYou all want the latest and greatest ASAP, and when we miss a deadline because<br \/>\nof bugs, we hear about it loud and clear. I can&#8217;t think of a single time that<br \/>\nI slipped a ship date and someone who wanted one of the upcoming features<br \/>\nsaid &#8220;no problem, we&#8217;d rather you take the time to do it right.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><h3> Say I&#8217;m the nerdy guy on the desk and I want to follow your example and get<br \/>\na job with my pagination vendor. What do I need to know before I make such a<br \/>\nleap?<\/h3>\n<blockquote>\n<p> Hmm &#8230; Danish?<\/p>\n<p> I don&#8217;t really know what you would need to know to work for CCI. (<i>CCI<br \/>\nis the Mercury News pagination system, it comes from Denmark &#8212; tm<\/i>) But<br \/>\nI think for the most part, the vendors are looking for people who want to<br \/>\ntravel. In our case, trainers are out 50-60% of the year, usually only 2 weeks<br \/>\nat a time. Other vendors I know of have installations that take months and<br \/>\nthe trainers rent apartments, etc.<\/p>\n<p> Some vendors have a different training staff from the installation staff.<br \/>\nThe installers are much more technical, while the trainers are more hands<br \/>\non, patient types.<\/p>\n<p> You have to have a lot of patience to be a trainer. You also have to be<br \/>\na good listener. Understanding what the customer is looking for is a key to<br \/>\na smooth installation.<\/p>\n<p> And training is a broad term. I have trained people from how to use a mouse<br \/>\nto how to use our software to how to edit kerning tables in Quark to IP configurations<br \/>\nof the network. Some sites don&#8217;t have very knowledgeable support staffs, lots<br \/>\nof times the new systems manager was the person in ad composing who knew the<br \/>\nmost about the computers. This isn&#8217;t an issue at the larger papers, but there<br \/>\nare lot more small papers than big ones. <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><h3>I picture there having been a time in your career when you were slaving away<br \/>\nat your cubicle, racking your brain for ways to make your system kinder and<br \/>\ngentler to its users. Suddenly a lightbulb goes off that the system needs Feature<br \/>\nX. So you invest reams of time and energy into getting Feature X added, over<br \/>\nthe resistance of bosses, co-workers and software engineers. After months of<br \/>\nfighting for Feature X, you get it added to the system &#8212; and the users yawn.<br \/>\nHas anything like this happened to you? <\/h3>\n<blockquote><p>\nNot really&#8230;<\/p>\n<p> (<i>Ellipses are for a tale Jack told me so he wouldn&#8217;t have to give the<br \/>\nimpression he didn&#8217;t have an answer; suffice to say my brain conjured a bit<br \/>\nmore melodrama than his actual job does. Also, I wanted to have one ridiculously<br \/>\nlong question with a two-word answer, in honor of George W. Bush&#8217;s news conferences.<br \/>\n&#8212; TM)<\/i>. <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><h3>Word comes down from the glass offices: We&#8217;re getting a new editorial\/pagination<br \/>\nsystem. What are a few things editors could do to take the pain out of the experience?<\/h3>\n<blockquote>\n<p> Learn something about layout if inexperienced. Learn how to use a computer<br \/>\nwith a mouse if inexperienced. Learn the basics of the OS (Mac or Win) &#8211; file<br \/>\nsystem, how to print, how to get to a server, etc. Take a class on the layout<br \/>\nsoftware &#8211; Quark, InDesign, etc. (if proprietary like CCI, you have to wait<br \/>\nfor the class from the vendor)<\/p>\n<p> If you have friends at another paper with the same system, go check it out,<br \/>\nget some pointers from them if you can. <\/p>\n<p> The biggest thing is to make sure whomever is planning the installation<br \/>\nfrom the paper&#8217;s side gives adequate time for the training and practice. So<br \/>\nthat new users have time to build pages and use the system before they go<br \/>\nlive with it. <\/p>\n<p> That&#8217;s really important, that you have pushed a lot of pages through before<br \/>\nbeing on deadline.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp; <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jack Rosenzweig works for a company called Baseview, which builds pagination systems for small newspapers. Jack started out as a copy editor in New Jersey, and did that for a couple years before getting into pagination 11 years ago. 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